paranoid ron
one of those chilling sentences defining these times in the united states during the reign of the current King George. (in USA Today yesterday.)
the article is talking about MRAP'S (mine resistant ambush protected) vehicles in iraq. these are the "new" vehicles for our troops because they have a V shaped hull which deflects explosions from underneath the vehicle. problem is that now the enemy is using a device that shoots through the side of the vehicle and kills the men. so, what the army wants to do is to put extra armour on the sides. the defense contractor complained that they did not want to do that because:
"that would make the vehicle too wide for operation on AMERICAN FREEWAYS"
now, my question is: why would they want this vehicle to OPERATE on american freeways unless, of course, they plan on using it here? maybe to put down civilian resistance against the war?
i know, i am just paranoid. but it reminds me of a conversation between hans and fritz in berlin circa 1934.
hans: " you are just paranoid, fritz, he is not going to do that;
he is not going to start a war under false premises, he would not tell us that a certain country attacked us and so we have to invade.
he is not going to build secret prisons in foriegn countries.
he is not going to be able to arrest anyone, anywhere, including our citizens and put them in confinement without access to lawyers or civilian courts just by declaring them 'enemies.'
he wouldn't let anyone torture a prisoner. we are not that kind of people.
he is not going to have a government agcency spying on our citizens, opening mail and listening to phone calls.
he is not going to unite the rest of the world against us.
you are just paranoid, fritz, that can't happen here, why we are civilized country filled with people who respect the law. why, we brought the world beethovan and mozart and goethe and einstien. "
hitler started world war two by invading poland. he justified his attack by telling the german people that poland not only had attacked a german military post but was planning an invasion of the homeland.
most of the concentration camps were not on german soil.
he, of course, got permission from the courts to arrest not only jews but communists, gypsies, catholics, and anyone deemed undesirable.
world war two united the world against germany, japan and italy.
compare to:
weapons of mass destruction were not in iraq nor iraq have anything to do with 9-11
the cia admits to having secret prisons in foriegn countries.
we send 'prisoners" to countries such as egypt where they are tortured.
we can and do arrest people with warrants issued by secret courts that answer to no one.
we open mail, check what books you read, open your emails, listen to phone conversations.
we are hated and feared by most of the world.
yes, he would.
yes, he did.
and
yes, he is.
yes, he has.
but it can't happen here; we are a peace loving country filled with people who respect the law.
so, ron, you are just paranoid. they probably want them for parades down our freeways.
the article is talking about MRAP'S (mine resistant ambush protected) vehicles in iraq. these are the "new" vehicles for our troops because they have a V shaped hull which deflects explosions from underneath the vehicle. problem is that now the enemy is using a device that shoots through the side of the vehicle and kills the men. so, what the army wants to do is to put extra armour on the sides. the defense contractor complained that they did not want to do that because:
"that would make the vehicle too wide for operation on AMERICAN FREEWAYS"
now, my question is: why would they want this vehicle to OPERATE on american freeways unless, of course, they plan on using it here? maybe to put down civilian resistance against the war?
i know, i am just paranoid. but it reminds me of a conversation between hans and fritz in berlin circa 1934.
hans: " you are just paranoid, fritz, he is not going to do that;
he is not going to start a war under false premises, he would not tell us that a certain country attacked us and so we have to invade.
he is not going to build secret prisons in foriegn countries.
he is not going to be able to arrest anyone, anywhere, including our citizens and put them in confinement without access to lawyers or civilian courts just by declaring them 'enemies.'
he wouldn't let anyone torture a prisoner. we are not that kind of people.
he is not going to have a government agcency spying on our citizens, opening mail and listening to phone calls.
he is not going to unite the rest of the world against us.
you are just paranoid, fritz, that can't happen here, why we are civilized country filled with people who respect the law. why, we brought the world beethovan and mozart and goethe and einstien. "
hitler started world war two by invading poland. he justified his attack by telling the german people that poland not only had attacked a german military post but was planning an invasion of the homeland.
most of the concentration camps were not on german soil.
he, of course, got permission from the courts to arrest not only jews but communists, gypsies, catholics, and anyone deemed undesirable.
world war two united the world against germany, japan and italy.
compare to:
weapons of mass destruction were not in iraq nor iraq have anything to do with 9-11
the cia admits to having secret prisons in foriegn countries.
we send 'prisoners" to countries such as egypt where they are tortured.
we can and do arrest people with warrants issued by secret courts that answer to no one.
we open mail, check what books you read, open your emails, listen to phone conversations.
we are hated and feared by most of the world.
yes, he would.
yes, he did.
and
yes, he is.
yes, he has.
but it can't happen here; we are a peace loving country filled with people who respect the law.
so, ron, you are just paranoid. they probably want them for parades down our freeways.
posted by Ron Shock | 2:31 PM
6 Comments:
I haven't researched this issue, but I'm having a hard time with the idea that they won't fit at all--Freeways are damn wide. I think the real issue is whether they fit legal lane restrictions. If they are to be used against us, a traffic ticket isn't going to be an issue.
However, for all the other things you mention, thank god for term limits.
yeah, i had the same thought. the point, though, is why even think about american highways in the first place, we will not be invaded other than by ourselves
They need to fit so they can be reasonably moved from base to base--Especially for training. A lot harder to train with them if you need to get the Air Force involved every time.
the same would be said for tanks but you don't see them on the highways. when i was in first armored division out of fort hood, texas when we moved our big stuff, tanks, troop carriers, etc. we used either rail or put them on huge trucks. and the fact that the contractor did not want extra armor on the mrap's where it would cut down american casualities is insane.
Tanks might fit, but treads tear up pavement. At least some tanks can get road treads that aren't so bad, but it is probably easier to put them on a truck than to change tread. I'd also bet a semi pulling a tank or troop carrier gets better mileage.
Irrelevant to the main point, though--I don't see any evidence that the lack of additional armor is to let them be used against us. It is more likely that the armor will cost someone extra money they don't want to spend.
I may be wrong here ( I have been wrong once ) , but I think they are worried about US Highways because they are planning to market them after the war commercially ala The Hummer.
Commerce, after all, comes before function, or the lives of those serving our country.
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