i was asked about wilileaks and this is what i said

et me preface this with i know a writer who is very progressive and he thinks that the wikileaks release of these memos, emails etc is the greatest thing since the pentagon papers. you must remember that the p.p. broke the truth about the "tonkin gulf episode" and proved that the government flat out lied to us and because of THAT LIE the majority of the 58,000 deaths in vietnam HAPPENED! a lie that cost tens of thousands of young american men their lives and also caused the loss of hundreds of thousands of vietnamnese. remember that.

when i looked at it from that prespective ...

now, what these new leaks show is that the government of afghanistan is corrupt to its very core and WE KNOW IT. hmmm does this start to have an erie feel to it? we also know that the so-called afghan army is a sham and probably won't fight (just like the south vietnamnese army was unreliable and we knew it) we plan on staying until the afghanistan army can control the countryside and the government is stable. right? yet we know that the afgan army is more a figment of our imagination and we also know the the current government, which we installed, is horribly corrupt and not trusted by the people of afghanistan. BUT WE ARE STILL STAYING. based on what we know IS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAPPEN AND THEN WHEN IT DOESNT HAPPEN WE WILL HAVE TO STAY EVEN LONGER and longer and longer and longer and longer and longer.......

when the pentagon papers were leaked to the press, oh the horror cried the politicians and commentators not of the government lies mind you but the release of the papers. hmm just as we are seeing now. and the beat goes on.

the detractors are using the same arguments....it jepordizes people who sympathize with us. here is a clue, jack, they were in jepordy anyway...they sympathized with the invaded army and the people knew it. hmmmm. what would put them in real danger is when we finally leave.....ask some of the south vietnamnese who co-operated with us and then we abandoned them.

so, fuck a bunch of secrets. the government and the military industrial comples doesn't want us to know the truth about afghanistan and iraq. we are there to stay. that is the plan. and they are pissed that we, the people, might just actually figure that out.